@@kevinbentler4860 A triplet has three notes. Trip-Ah-Let... Trip-Ah-Let... Trip-Ah-Let... Now tie the first two notes of the triplet into one tone, you get: Trippp-Let... Trippp-Let... Trippp-Let... See...??? A heartbeat...
Thank you for this video! I recently struggled to transcribe a song I heard on RUclips, for which there is no sheet music. I thought it was in 4/4 time with triplets on each beat -- now I know I should have written it in 12/8 time!!!!
Thank you. It was a very helpful presentation. I was having a difficult time understanding how I was going to count to 12 every measure on a song that I was learning. Now, I at least understand how to count and where to place the emphasis.
The easiest way to think of it would be as a Common Time Signature (4/4 Time) with 8th Note Triplets on each beat. Alan Billingsley did a neat arrangement of "can't help falling in love" which is written in a 12/8 time signature. The tempo says Doo-Wop (feel in 4).
@@MusicalMama I'll definitely pass this site onto me new Ukulele acquaintances. I'm actually a sort of beginner intermediate Bass player. P.S. I wish I could click my fingers as good as you can!
Ha, thanks! If you like American folk songs, you could come up with bass lines and play along with my ukulele tutorials. For simple bass accompaniment (which is about all I can do), you can play the 1 and 5 notes for the chords used in the songs. So for a song that's in the key of A and uses the 1 (A), 4 (D), and 5 (E), chords, you could play A and E, D and A, and E and B. Do you know what I mean?
@@MusicalMama It's really nice of you to reply again and give me some advice , thank you. Yes , I more or less know what you mean about 1,4, 5 etc. I do like some American folk songs . I think I better do the right thing and...subscribe!
Oh wow! I tabbed a song on protocol and logic I am working on in 3/4 time but now I am going to change it cause 12/8 is the the actual pulse of the song. Thx.
I'm half Irish and I like to call 12/8 an Irish 4. It's conducting 4/4 while drunk which results in a slight lag. Also, a lot of traditional Irish and Scottish songs use this time signature
Thanks! A great classic, "You Belong to Me"...is in 12/8. I've been playing it by feel, so probably not correctly. Also, I guess I better revisit "Oh Holy Night"...I haven't been playing that one correctly either!
Hmm, you might be too hard on yourself here. I don't know "You Belong to Me," (who wrote/sang it?), so I can't speak to that one. But I've heard versions of "O Holy Night" that sound more like 6/8, so you're probably doing just fine-I specifically mention the Mariah Carey version because it feels very 12/8 to me. If you know what a song's "supposed to" sound like, and you're able to get close to that when you play it, you're doing just fine. Happy music making!
Great explanation! Do you know if Stegman’s Concerto is 12/8? The time signature kind of reminds me of the Moonlight Sonata which I believe also is 12/8?
Thank you! Hmm, I'd have to listen to both pieces before weighing in. Try a google image search for the title plus "sheet music" and see what turns up.
Hi, just seeing your comment now! I get nervous when people start doing math to make sense of time signatures 🙈 but I get what you're saying. I think the main thing is that a measure feels like the "whole" and the beats are the parts that make up that whole. 6/8 time tends to feel like you're walking up and down the beats within a measure, and 12/8 feels more swirling, like you're spinning. Does that make any sense? FWIW, I do plan to make more time signature videos! Until then, I recommend listening to songs in both time signatures to get a better feel for them. Happy music-making!
In 4/4 time each quarter note gets a beat, and a set of triplets in 4/4 time would replace one quarter note. 12/8 time uses eighth notes and each eighth note gets a beat. Normally I would suggest listening to music to get a better feel for the rhythm, but I can't think of any songs in 4/4 that use a lot of triplets! Maybe someone else can weigh in? I did think this was a well-written explanation for how to count triplets: www.masterclass.com/articles/how-to-play-and-count-triplets-in-music
Thank you! As to your question, yes, it often is, which is why I call out Mariah's version. Sometimes an artist will change the time signature-- a well-known example is Whitney Houston singing the "Star-Spangled Banner" in 4/4 time. Hope that helps!
So I’ve been having an insanely hard time trying to understand time signatures over 8, and I brought them together for example 12/8, into 6/4?? Bc there are 12 eight notes I put them in pairs instead of triples
Hello- so the trick is that time signatures aren’t fractions and we can’t reduce one time signature to another. I’d recommend starting with my video on 4/4 vs 3/4 time signature first, then check out my video on 3/4 vs 6/8 to help you feel the difference between quarter notes and eighth notes. Often times we just have to sit with something for a while before it clicks into place. But if you keep working things through, it’ll click eventually!
ok so my band teacher tells us to count 12/8 like tri-p-let like cause there are 2 1/2 eigth notes. im just still confused on how to count it like triplet
I can't speak to that song because I'm not familiar with it, but 12/8 works beautifully for songs that have a dreamy, enraptured quality, like Taylor Swift's "Lover" or Mariah Carey's "Vision of Love." "Golden Hour" by JVKE sounds like it's in 6/8 time to me but gives off very similar vibes.
Is there a song that uses the *opposite* of the Tears for Fears polyrhythm, so it only hits the downbeats between 3/4 and 4/4, i.e., x-2-3-x-x-6-x-8-x-x-11-12? This polyrhythm has a shuffling feel without reinforcing 3/4 *or* 4/4
A set of 6 quarter notes would be 6/4 time. Songs in 12/8 time signature (like the ones I mention in this video) have sets of 12 eighth notes. Hope that helps!
I still don't see how you tell 12/8 from 3/8 In the examples you would need to have a much stronger first beat than the secondary accents on 4, 7, 10 to make it clear.
Hi there- I'd recommend getting really comfortable with feeling 4/4 time, then work on 3/4 time, 6/8 time, and then 12/8 time. This video is a third in my time signature series. Here's the link for the video on 4/4 and 3/4 time: ruclips.net/video/fNbLqh0RMRw/видео.html and here's the link for the video on 3/4 and 6/8 time: ruclips.net/video/9z4yA8Yh7Ps/видео.html I hope they're helpful to you!
With all my respect. The 8 does not indicate the number of notes. The number of notes is indicate by the 12 and the 8 is the type of note that occurs un a single pulse, that is an eighth note. Then a 12/8 is read as a 4/4 with 8 8 8 / 8 8 8 / 8 8 8 / 8 8 8 /
Please go back and watch the video, because I never said the 8 indicates the number of notes. Quoting myself at 0:39, "The 12 up on top means that we have a grouping of 12 notes per measure."
In the blues, this is called "Shuffle time". They very often will tie tie the first two triplet eighth notes to create a heart beat effect.
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@@kevinbentler4860 A triplet has three notes. Trip-Ah-Let... Trip-Ah-Let... Trip-Ah-Let... Now tie the first two notes of the triplet into one tone, you get: Trippp-Let... Trippp-Let... Trippp-Let... See...??? A heartbeat...
@@ThomasDeLelloI think he's referencing the Led Zeppelin song of that name which is in 12/8 time.
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Those counting methods really helped me grasp the beat.
Excellent!
Oh yeah, that was good! I was trying to learn Etta Jame's At Last on the bass which 12/8 and I was getting out of time. This really helps! Thanks!
So glad this video was helpful to you. What a great song choice!
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Thanks for the kind words!
Excellent description!! Thank you so much for helping me understand this time signature. I'm playing Gesu Bambino for Christmas in a saxophone trio.
Wow, I bet that will sound great!
Amazing lesson! You did an amazing work simplifying 12/8 time signature for easy understanding.
That's very kind, thanks for watching!
@MusicalMama It's a pleasure!
Thank you for this video! I recently struggled to transcribe a song I heard on RUclips, for which there is no sheet music. I thought it was in 4/4 time with triplets on each beat -- now I know I should have written it in 12/8 time!!!!
I'm so glad this video was helpful to you!
This is actually so helpful. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge!
I'm so glad it helped. Thanks for letting me know!
Thank you. It was a very helpful presentation. I was having a difficult time understanding how I was going to count to 12 every measure on a song that I was learning. Now, I at least understand how to count and where to place the emphasis.
That's terrific!
The easiest way to think of it would be as a Common Time Signature (4/4 Time) with 8th Note Triplets on each beat. Alan Billingsley did a neat arrangement of "can't help falling in love" which is written in a 12/8 time signature. The tempo says Doo-Wop (feel in 4).
this was genuinely so helpful, as i needed to use this information for a new series i'm making!
I'm so glad to hear that! Happy creating!
‘Sea of love’ oldies song is in this time. Thank you for posting this.
Great video, thank you. This explains the song titled “The faster we go the rounder we get” commonly known as The Other One by The Grateful Dead
Oh, interesting! I'll have to give that song a listen
Excellent explained ! Lot of thanks :)
Yes it was a definite help . Very well explained and demonstrated ! Thank you .
I'm glad it was helpful!
@@MusicalMama I'll definitely pass this site onto me new Ukulele acquaintances. I'm actually a sort of beginner intermediate Bass player. P.S. I wish I could click my fingers as good as you can!
Ha, thanks! If you like American folk songs, you could come up with bass lines and play along with my ukulele tutorials. For simple bass accompaniment (which is about all I can do), you can play the 1 and 5 notes for the chords used in the songs. So for a song that's in the key of A and uses the 1 (A), 4 (D), and 5 (E), chords, you could play A and E, D and A, and E and B. Do you know what I mean?
@@MusicalMama It's really nice of you to reply again and give me some advice , thank you. Yes , I more or less know what you mean about 1,4, 5 etc. I do like some American folk songs . I think I better do the right thing and...subscribe!
Haha!
Oh wow! I tabbed a song on protocol and logic I am working on in 3/4 time but now I am going to change it cause 12/8 is the the actual pulse of the song. Thx.
How great! Is this an original composition or a cover?
Awesome tutorial ! This really helped my daughter with her new audition piece that is in 12/8
I'm so glad! Please tell your daughter I said, "Break a leg!"
Thank you very much; after years of playing blues a musical mystery solved for me!
How exciting! A new musical achievement has been unlocked! 🏆
Thank you for explaining 12/8 time signature.
You're welcome! Happy music-making!
Great explanation. First time playing a song on bass with 12/*. VARIATION IN BLUE , Jacob de Hahn. Thank you !!!
How exciting! So glad this video was helpful for you!
This is excellent. I can't thank you enough!
I'm so glad it was helpful!
Great description. I would also recommend, "Get Back" by The Beatles to catch the beat...
Very good. Perfect is a brilliant song. Thank you for this video
Thanks for watching!
I'm half Irish and I like to call 12/8 an Irish 4. It's conducting 4/4 while drunk which results in a slight lag. Also, a lot of traditional Irish and Scottish songs use this time signature
Thanks! A great classic, "You Belong to Me"...is in 12/8. I've been playing it by feel, so probably not correctly. Also, I guess I better revisit "Oh Holy Night"...I haven't been playing that one correctly either!
Hmm, you might be too hard on yourself here. I don't know "You Belong to Me," (who wrote/sang it?), so I can't speak to that one. But I've heard versions of "O Holy Night" that sound more like 6/8, so you're probably doing just fine-I specifically mention the Mariah Carey version because it feels very 12/8 to me. If you know what a song's "supposed to" sound like, and you're able to get close to that when you play it, you're doing just fine. Happy music making!
Great explanation. Thanks for this.
I'm so glad to hear that. Thank you!
anyone else trying to play Chopin's nocturne opus 9 no.2?
Beautiful choice! I'm currently learning to play Clair de Lune on the piano, which is in 9/8 time signature. I hope to start on this Nocturne next.
Ya lol, that's how I got to this video 😂
It was Mozart’s Lacrimosa for me 😂
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thank you very much 🙏
trying to teach Mary had a little blues. Many thanks. That was very helpful
Glad to hear, thanks!
Another great video. Thank you kindly!
Thanks again, I appreciate it!
Listen to Swim by Bush. That used to freak me out. Had so much trouble counting it.
Thank you very much. I was looking into JVKE golden hour about the 12 8 time signature
Glad to hear the video helped. :) I haven't heard that song- I'll have to check it out!
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Thank you! I've been trying to figure out how to count Lover by Taylor Swift!
Oh, yay! "Lover" is a great example of 12/8 time!
Great explanation!
Thank you!!
Very helpful. Thank you!
So glad!
Very helpful, thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
thank you so much 🙏🙏
Thanks. You made it easy.
Glad to hear it!
Great explanation! Do you know if Stegman’s Concerto is 12/8? The time signature kind of reminds me of the Moonlight Sonata which I believe also is 12/8?
Thank you! Hmm, I'd have to listen to both pieces before weighing in. Try a google image search for the title plus "sheet music" and see what turns up.
Everybody wants to rule the world I think does a good job at showing this time signature. I suggest the NSP cover.
Thank you 🙏🏾
You are so welcome
Great video ❤ I'm wondering why 12/8 is not just slow 4/4 🤔
I think I need to make a video about this! Stay tuned...
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Hey, all right! Way to go!
Beautiful
Thank you! Cheers!
Would it be right to take it as 6/8 + 6/8 ?
Hi, just seeing your comment now! I get nervous when people start doing math to make sense of time signatures 🙈 but I get what you're saying. I think the main thing is that a measure feels like the "whole" and the beats are the parts that make up that whole. 6/8 time tends to feel like you're walking up and down the beats within a measure, and 12/8 feels more swirling, like you're spinning. Does that make any sense? FWIW, I do plan to make more time signature videos! Until then, I recommend listening to songs in both time signatures to get a better feel for them. Happy music-making!
Tq,but what is different triplet feel 4/4 and 12/8?🤔same but not?
In 4/4 time each quarter note gets a beat, and a set of triplets in 4/4 time would replace one quarter note. 12/8 time uses eighth notes and each eighth note gets a beat. Normally I would suggest listening to music to get a better feel for the rhythm, but I can't think of any songs in 4/4 that use a lot of triplets! Maybe someone else can weigh in? I did think this was a well-written explanation for how to count triplets: www.masterclass.com/articles/how-to-play-and-count-triplets-in-music
great lesson
Thank you!
Great video! however isn't oh holy night in 6/8 ?
Thank you! As to your question, yes, it often is, which is why I call out Mariah's version. Sometimes an artist will change the time signature-- a well-known example is Whitney Houston singing the "Star-Spangled Banner" in 4/4 time. Hope that helps!
This helped me but the way you count it is difficult for me. I find it easier to count as "1-and-uh 2-and-uh 3-and-uh 4-and-uh".
Glad to hear you have a way that works well for you! I think your way is a common way of counting, so I bet you're in good company. :)
So I’ve been having an insanely hard time trying to understand time signatures over 8, and I brought them together for example 12/8, into 6/4?? Bc there are 12 eight notes I put them in pairs instead of triples
Hello- so the trick is that time signatures aren’t fractions and we can’t reduce one time signature to another. I’d recommend starting with my video on 4/4 vs 3/4 time signature first, then check out my video on 3/4 vs 6/8 to help you feel the difference between quarter notes and eighth notes. Often times we just have to sit with something for a while before it clicks into place. But if you keep working things through, it’ll click eventually!
@@MusicalMama okay, thank you
ok so my band teacher tells us to count 12/8 like tri-p-let like cause there are 2 1/2 eigth notes. im just still confused on how to count it like triplet
Hmm, I'm not following. Perhaps your band teacher can provide you with more guidance. Good luck to you!
30 Seconds to Mars “Bury Me” as well.
12/8 is pretty much a triplet subdivided 4/4
Make a tresillo rhythm
Stars from Les Misérables is also written in 12/8. Any thoughts on why the pattern is also used on such a heavy themed song?
I can't speak to that song because I'm not familiar with it, but 12/8 works beautifully for songs that have a dreamy, enraptured quality, like Taylor Swift's "Lover" or Mariah Carey's "Vision of Love." "Golden Hour" by JVKE sounds like it's in 6/8 time to me but gives off very similar vibes.
Is there a song that uses the *opposite* of the Tears for Fears polyrhythm, so it only hits the downbeats between 3/4 and 4/4, i.e., x-2-3-x-x-6-x-8-x-x-11-12? This polyrhythm has a shuffling feel without reinforcing 3/4 *or* 4/4
If you divide the measure into 6 pairs of 8th notes or 6 quarter notes it changes where the beat falls is this still 12/8. or 6/4.
A set of 6 quarter notes would be 6/4 time. Songs in 12/8 time signature (like the ones I mention in this video) have sets of 12 eighth notes. Hope that helps!
@@MusicalMama yes it does thank you.
I still don't see how you tell 12/8 from 3/8 In the examples you would need to have a much stronger first beat than the secondary accents on 4, 7, 10 to make it clear.
Hi there- I'd recommend getting really comfortable with feeling 4/4 time, then work on 3/4 time, 6/8 time, and then 12/8 time. This video is a third in my time signature series. Here's the link for the video on 4/4 and 3/4 time: ruclips.net/video/fNbLqh0RMRw/видео.html and here's the link for the video on 3/4 and 6/8 time: ruclips.net/video/9z4yA8Yh7Ps/видео.html I hope they're helpful to you!
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With all my respect. The 8 does not indicate the number of notes. The number of notes is indicate by the 12 and the 8 is the type of note that occurs un a single pulse, that is an eighth note. Then a 12/8 is read as a 4/4 with 8 8 8 / 8 8 8 / 8 8 8 / 8 8 8 /
Please go back and watch the video, because I never said the 8 indicates the number of notes. Quoting myself at 0:39, "The 12 up on top means that we have a grouping of 12 notes per measure."
That’s exactly what she said…?
Remember boys everything can be 4/4 if u count wrong enough
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